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		<title>Comment on The Echo Chamber &amp; Entrepreneurial Spirt by Erika</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2012/03/06/the-echo-chamber-entrepreneurial-spirt/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 23:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just had a discussion about what to call &#039;clients&#039; ... or in our case, customers with library staff. Partially because of a dislike of the terms patron and user as well!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a discussion about what to call &#8216;clients&#8217; &#8230; or in our case, customers with library staff. Partially because of a dislike of the terms patron and user as well!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Echo Chamber &amp; Entrepreneurial Spirt by The Daily News: 12 March 2012 &#124; Finding Heroes</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2012/03/06/the-echo-chamber-entrepreneurial-spirt/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Daily News: 12 March 2012 &#124; Finding Heroes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Library Life appeared in the blogs of Stephen&#8217;s Lighthouse, iLibrarian, ALA Direct and Kim Stymest &#124; @sallyheroes. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Library Life appeared in the blogs of Stephen&#8217;s Lighthouse, iLibrarian, ALA Direct and Kim Stymest | @sallyheroes. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library as place&#8230; by Jules</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2012/02/26/library-as-place/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 23:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;ve answered your own question Kim, and that is of course libraries can exist without physically collections. Because your emphasis is on the community and bringing of people together, not the physical collections. Bringing people together with like minded research goals or learning goals - however you want to view that depending on the library you&#039;re working in. It has nothing to do with a physical collection, it is about access to information. And increasingly that just happens to be digital. Collections are a vital component to a library - but whether or not they are physical or digital does not matter, in my opinion. Books are never going to disappear totally - I believe there will be far less of them, but I don&#039;t&#039; believe they will ever completely disappear. 

I think Graham&#039;s question is best - is a library still a library without physical space? And this is where I would argue the answer is no. As a public librarian the physical space of the library is absolutely vital. It is truly the only &quot;public&quot; space our communities have got left. I would challenge anyone to suggest otherwise. And while I do believe there is value in online communities, it does not and never will be able to replace the meeting people in the flesh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve answered your own question Kim, and that is of course libraries can exist without physically collections. Because your emphasis is on the community and bringing of people together, not the physical collections. Bringing people together with like minded research goals or learning goals &#8211; however you want to view that depending on the library you&#8217;re working in. It has nothing to do with a physical collection, it is about access to information. And increasingly that just happens to be digital. Collections are a vital component to a library &#8211; but whether or not they are physical or digital does not matter, in my opinion. Books are never going to disappear totally &#8211; I believe there will be far less of them, but I don&#8217;t&#8217; believe they will ever completely disappear. </p>
<p>I think Graham&#8217;s question is best &#8211; is a library still a library without physical space? And this is where I would argue the answer is no. As a public librarian the physical space of the library is absolutely vital. It is truly the only &#8220;public&#8221; space our communities have got left. I would challenge anyone to suggest otherwise. And while I do believe there is value in online communities, it does not and never will be able to replace the meeting people in the flesh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library as place&#8230; by Graham Lavender</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2012/02/26/library-as-place/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Lavender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s true that there are still plenty of issues that need to be ironed out in terms of access. At McGill we didn&#039;t have anything equivalent to the Inforum, but anyone can walk into the McGill Library off the street and either browse the physical stacks or access about 95% of the electronic books, journals, and databases (the only exceptions are some very specialized and expensive databases). Members of the public can&#039;t book group study rooms or use the WiFi, but they can log into almost any computer as a guest and access almost any McGill-subscribed resource. And even alumni must pay to take books out of the library.

My point here is just that it&#039;s possible to have a model where electronic resources are as accessible as physical resources. But you&#039;re right: this isn&#039;t the case in many libraries, and I&#039;m sure in the future many copyright holders will fight to keep non-students from using the electronic collections of university libraries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that there are still plenty of issues that need to be ironed out in terms of access. At McGill we didn&#8217;t have anything equivalent to the Inforum, but anyone can walk into the McGill Library off the street and either browse the physical stacks or access about 95% of the electronic books, journals, and databases (the only exceptions are some very specialized and expensive databases). Members of the public can&#8217;t book group study rooms or use the WiFi, but they can log into almost any computer as a guest and access almost any McGill-subscribed resource. And even alumni must pay to take books out of the library.</p>
<p>My point here is just that it&#8217;s possible to have a model where electronic resources are as accessible as physical resources. But you&#8217;re right: this isn&#8217;t the case in many libraries, and I&#8217;m sure in the future many copyright holders will fight to keep non-students from using the electronic collections of university libraries.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library as place&#8230; by kimmy</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2012/02/26/library-as-place/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But why is a raven like a writing desk?

I think this comes to mind, because despite how I &lt;em&gt;feel &lt;/em&gt; about libraries and the community that they inspire, there possibly &lt;em&gt;is &lt;/em&gt;no real answer to my question. You&#039;ve raised some interesting points, Graham. I just wonder whether we can sort out access issues with copyright with ownership etc etc to be able to get there, and how long the sorting out will take.

In my example of the Inforum still being a space that I use, I am using it in the only way available to me. Alumni are permitted borrowing cards, but for the physical collection only (I can&#039;t use the computers, the study rooms, the labs, the electronic resources, not even the wifi - please don&#039;t misunderstand, I completely understand the reasoning behind these). But I &lt;em&gt;can &lt;/em&gt;still borrow the books.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But why is a raven like a writing desk?</p>
<p>I think this comes to mind, because despite how I <em>feel </em> about libraries and the community that they inspire, there possibly <em>is </em>no real answer to my question. You&#8217;ve raised some interesting points, Graham. I just wonder whether we can sort out access issues with copyright with ownership etc etc to be able to get there, and how long the sorting out will take.</p>
<p>In my example of the Inforum still being a space that I use, I am using it in the only way available to me. Alumni are permitted borrowing cards, but for the physical collection only (I can&#8217;t use the computers, the study rooms, the labs, the electronic resources, not even the wifi &#8211; please don&#8217;t misunderstand, I completely understand the reasoning behind these). But I <em>can </em>still borrow the books.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library as place&#8230; by Graham Lavender</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2012/02/26/library-as-place/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Lavender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a library can definitely still be a library without a physical collection. Why not have story time with an iPad, or a computer monitor? As long as there&#039;s a person reading the book, and children listening, I don&#039;t think it matters what the book is made of. And as academic libraries move more towards electronic resources, I don&#039;t think any of the traditional functions, such as reference services or collaboration space are diminished.

I would say the bigger question is whether a library is still a library without a physical space. At the moment, the only true virtual libraries I know of are special libraries, where a librarian serves clients strictly online. In this case you would probably lose the community aspect, and then it might be fair to say it&#039;s no longer a library. But even then, it might be possible to have some kind of community engagement through message boards and live chatting - story time via Skype wouldn&#039;t be quite the same, but it could be more interesting for a child than simply reading a book by herself. Perhaps over time our concept of &quot;space&quot; will broaden to include virtual space as well as physical space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a library can definitely still be a library without a physical collection. Why not have story time with an iPad, or a computer monitor? As long as there&#8217;s a person reading the book, and children listening, I don&#8217;t think it matters what the book is made of. And as academic libraries move more towards electronic resources, I don&#8217;t think any of the traditional functions, such as reference services or collaboration space are diminished.</p>
<p>I would say the bigger question is whether a library is still a library without a physical space. At the moment, the only true virtual libraries I know of are special libraries, where a librarian serves clients strictly online. In this case you would probably lose the community aspect, and then it might be fair to say it&#8217;s no longer a library. But even then, it might be possible to have some kind of community engagement through message boards and live chatting &#8211; story time via Skype wouldn&#8217;t be quite the same, but it could be more interesting for a child than simply reading a book by herself. Perhaps over time our concept of &#8220;space&#8221; will broaden to include virtual space as well as physical space.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Networking&#8230; by Chris</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2012/01/31/networking/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice! that&#039;s my hand in that photo. j/k. keep in touch. you are, and always will be, my favourite librarian that can be addressed as Kim.

-Chris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! that&#8217;s my hand in that photo. j/k. keep in touch. you are, and always will be, my favourite librarian that can be addressed as Kim.</p>
<p>-Chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Being a Ninja&#8230; by kimmy</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2011/02/09/on-being-a-ninja/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mrs. H, 

Thank you so much for having the nerve! (I totally get it). I am really appreciating the feedback that I am getting on this post (see it on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://clatoolbox.ca/regen/?p=771&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Re:Generations Blog&lt;/a&gt;, too!). It&#039;s hard to keep their attention, and even harder when they don&#039;t necessarily value what they are being taught (yet). 

Glad to have you reading! Maybe we can turn you to the darkside (i.e. lieberrianship!) yet! :D

Kim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. H, </p>
<p>Thank you so much for having the nerve! (I totally get it). I am really appreciating the feedback that I am getting on this post (see it on the <a href="http://clatoolbox.ca/regen/?p=771" rel="nofollow">Re:Generations Blog</a>, too!). It&#8217;s hard to keep their attention, and even harder when they don&#8217;t necessarily value what they are being taught (yet). </p>
<p>Glad to have you reading! Maybe we can turn you to the darkside (i.e. lieberrianship!) yet! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Kim</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Being a Ninja&#8230; by Mrs. H.</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2011/02/09/on-being-a-ninja/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs. H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kim, I&#039;ve been reading your blog for a couple of months now (never had the nerve to comment, though), but this post really spoke to me.  I&#039;m a graduate teaching assistant (have been for six years, dear god), and I&#039;m actually looking at other options aside from university-level teaching.  Librarianship is an option that looks better and better every day.

I love this idea of using funny devices not only to convey a point but to, at the very least, get them to look in the direction of the instructor.  I&#039;ve chaperoned many a composition class during their library sessions, and I feel so utterly bad for those librarians that can&#039;t get the attention of my sleepiest, laziest, more-important-than-college-libraries-est students.  What I love about your method that you describe here is that it takes advantage of one really great potential detriment: it can be applied to different classes across the board (with mixed results of effectiveness, sure) without having a pre-established chemistry or rapport with the students.  It must be extremely daunting and challenging to work with a new set of students for these sessions, establish yourself as the day&#039;s authority figure, and require from them that they pay attention and take you seriously.  Well done for breaking through that barrier!  One of my university librarians here passes around a bucket filled to the brim with candy throughout the entire class period--my students would sit there, hyped up on sugar, shouting out research topics.  It was effective...and neither she nor I had to deal with them when they were little sugar-coma zombies.  Win-win!

Thanks for sharing this method!  I have to teach the MLA style today...maybe I&#039;ll rework my handout to include some humorous elements, too.... :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, I&#8217;ve been reading your blog for a couple of months now (never had the nerve to comment, though), but this post really spoke to me.  I&#8217;m a graduate teaching assistant (have been for six years, dear god), and I&#8217;m actually looking at other options aside from university-level teaching.  Librarianship is an option that looks better and better every day.</p>
<p>I love this idea of using funny devices not only to convey a point but to, at the very least, get them to look in the direction of the instructor.  I&#8217;ve chaperoned many a composition class during their library sessions, and I feel so utterly bad for those librarians that can&#8217;t get the attention of my sleepiest, laziest, more-important-than-college-libraries-est students.  What I love about your method that you describe here is that it takes advantage of one really great potential detriment: it can be applied to different classes across the board (with mixed results of effectiveness, sure) without having a pre-established chemistry or rapport with the students.  It must be extremely daunting and challenging to work with a new set of students for these sessions, establish yourself as the day&#8217;s authority figure, and require from them that they pay attention and take you seriously.  Well done for breaking through that barrier!  One of my university librarians here passes around a bucket filled to the brim with candy throughout the entire class period&#8211;my students would sit there, hyped up on sugar, shouting out research topics.  It was effective&#8230;and neither she nor I had to deal with them when they were little sugar-coma zombies.  Win-win!</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing this method!  I have to teach the MLA style today&#8230;maybe I&#8217;ll rework my handout to include some humorous elements, too&#8230;. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on A Few of My Favourite Things&#8230; by Do You Want to be a Librarian? &#124;</title>
		<link>http://kimstymest.com/2011/01/26/a-few-of-my-favourite-things/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Do You Want to be a Librarian? &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] found this 1946 video recently posted on two sites that I follow&#8211; Kim Stymest&#8217;s blog and the Resource Shelf, and I wanted to share.  I was completely enraptured in it, mainly because [...]]]></description>
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